Alien in an alien land

Am I living in an alien culture or am I not?

On one hand, I have almost nothing in common with those around me. I can’t even relate to the fears that drive so much of their reactionary and statist behavior. And, even when I can relate to those fears, I see their response to be, well, insane- leading to more of the very things they fear.

On the other hand, no one generally initiates force against me nor violates my property- except through “government”. People behave libertarian without even knowing what the word means or intending to.

I guess the truly alien part of this culture is that they honestly can’t see that how they choose to live their personal lives is contradicted by how they choose to live their “political” lives. It goes beyond blinders. They can’t even see what they are doing to themselves.

Yeah, I’m tired of being an alien. But other than being an example that might (might) inspire some change, I don’t know how to change it.

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10 Responses to “Alien in an alien land”

  1. CurrentUser Says:

    We are all Libertarians now.

  2. Anonymous Says:

    ” But other than being an example that might (might) inspire some change, I don't know how to change it.”

    I keep telling you how. But you reject it. You don't like it. I don't like it either. I find the answer to be abhorrent. But it is the answer, and only because they refuse to correct themselves or even acknowledge their crimes.

    It brings us back to the discussion about when the initiation of force is justified and/or necessary, as well as how exactly to kill so many gang members.

  3. Kent McManigal Says:

    If you kill everyone, you haven't promoted Rightful Liberty, so “we” would be back where we started.

    The closest analogy I can see is The Operative in Serenity. He knows he's evil, and recognizes he would have no place in the Utopia he believes his evil acts are working to create.

    Or V in “V for Vendetta”. He commits the evil (although the only unambiguous evil I see him commit is the torture of Evie) and knows he has no place in the post- Sutler country.

    Since mass murder isn't “libertarian” in any way- because there has to be an immediate and credible threat before you can kill in self defense- anyone who engaged in such would have no place in the “free society” which resulted.

  4. Anonymous Says:

    Reality is. Reality is not what it is not. It is what it is. It is non-negotiable. It is.

    What is the nature of the universe, physics, biology, etc? How does the universe function? How did it get here? What was here before the universe? How did it get here? What was before it? How did it get here/there wherever? What where when who how and why …beginning/first cause/premise/origin/start?

    Reality = + – x / 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 …infinity… etc., …etc,….etc., … …'God'

    Reality is.

    …meanwhile, back at the “Hall of Justice”…

    …a bunch of people got together and decided they were collectively gods, and made up a new different reality. The basic principle can be demonstrated as… X Y Z or die.

    They get together to decide on people to have religious ceremonies and say magic special words to give their signatures special powers to sign edicts on paper that says what XYZ reality says, and define imaginary lines that say where they are gods, then send it down a long chain of command to an army of men in funny clothes with weapons to make you do what the paper says or be violated, up to and including death.

    XYZ or Die.

    But reality is. Reality is not what it is not. It is what it is. It is non-negotiable. It is.

    In order for reality to be, XYZ or Die reality cannot be. Reality is. It isn't what it is not.
    Reality is not X Y Z or Die. Reality is. It is non-negotiable. It is.

    The group of people who create XYZ reality, all their bullshit on paper, and all the men in funny clothes forcing what the paper says, is a cage.

    It is a constant violation of your entire existence.

    You have a right to break it, by any and all means necessary and/or available, …so help you 'God'.

    This brings us to the question of means. What is necessary and available?

    What is necessary is a complicated question. I tend to think that since the threat of deadly violence is not only imminent, but a condition of existence within imaginary lines around my homeland, that the strategic answer to imminent deadly force is equal or greater force, and is righteous under the ” 'God'/Nature/Reality Gave Humans Rights The Instinct Of Self Preservation And Free Will Act “

    XYZ or Die reality makes violence necessary. If the men with funny clothes with weapons wanted to be civilized and talk about their bullshit on paper, it would be different. We could discuss rights and convince them otherwise. But they want to force it with threat of death. Thus the answer is to neutralize the threat.

    That would require an army. What is available?

    How do you kill billions of belligerent humans who forcefully insist on turning Earth into a big violent territorial prison cage match?

  5. Kent McManigal Says:

    XYZ or Die reality makes violence necessary.
    Violence, yes. Aggression, no. If you use violence against someone who isn't currently using, or credibly threatening to use, violence (or violation of your property) against you, you have become the aggressor. The bad guy. Most of those you want to kill are just running their mouths. They are too cowardly to actually do anything against you. Killing them is aggression. Killing those they actually send after you, when they confront you, is self defense. You can't kill a person 100 miles away in self defense- you can kill his employee who shows up at your door in self defense. Yes, that is inconvenient. But to not become evil is apparently inconvenient. But it's still necessary.

  6. Anonymous Says:

    They are using violence. It is by proxy of hired gunmen. If you kill the gunman, the active aggressor, they will hire more. The problem will persist. The papers say so. The people say the paper says so. The gunmen say the paper says so or die.

    It functions on collective strength, power in numbers. Thus the numbers are the threat. The enemy premises it's legitimacy on number in agreement. So, eliminate the numbers.

    An effective permanent solution, and actual correction, requires total annihilation of the entire construct, which includes burning bullshit on paper and 'neutralizing' billions of belligerent humans who forcefully insist on turning Earth into a big violent territorial prison cage match.

    If someone 100 miles away keeps sending assassins, they are a threat in addition to the assassins. They are the origin and conspirator of a threat. A threat is no less of a threat if it is organized.

  7. Clif Says:

    XYZ or Die is the problem. Killing is not a solution. It only changes who is in charge of the prison cage match.

  8. Clif Says:

    XYZ or Die is the problem. Killing is not a solution. It only changes who is in charge of the prison cage match.

  9. Anonymous Says:

    XYZ or Die is the cage. Break it.

  10. Enlightened Rogue Says:

    You won’t have to kill anyone. When their god-State dies, most of these loyalist slaves will probably kill themselves. Without their massers (“leaders”) they’ll no longer know how to function or know what to do. Since they highly value the act of human sacrifice (they get medals for it), expect them to be killing themselves in droves in large, lavish, star spangled ceremonies. I foresee massive, cyanide kool-aid parties at the Stinkin’-Lincoln Temple and The Patriot Guard motorcycle club escorting gravel trucks full of dead loyalists to their final resting spot. Should be quite a sight!

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